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That Was Then But This Is Now

by ABC · 1983

24 pressings15 countriesSynth-popElectronic

That Was Then But This Is Now was first pressed on vinyl in 1983. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of That Was Then But This Is Now

23 pressings came out in 1983, the album's first year, in 15 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

UK

October 1983
Label and catalog number
Neutron Records NT 105Neutron Records 814 631-7
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo · Silver Injection Labels
Runout / matrix

NT 105 A // 1 ▽ 420 H TOWNHOWNSide A runout

NT 105 B // 2 ▽ 420 H TOWNHOUSESide B runout

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UK

October 25, 1983
Label and catalog number
Neutron Records NTX 105Phonogram 814 631-1
Format
12", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
Runout / matrix

NTX 105 A//1▽420 H TOWNHOUSERunout A var.1

NTX 105 B//1▽420 H TOWNHOUSERunout B var.1

NTX 105 A//2▽420 H TOWNHOUSE 1 1 3Runout A var.2

NTX 105 B//2▽420 H TOWNHOUSE 1 1 2Runout B var.2

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UK

1983
Label and catalog number
Neutron Records NT 105Neutron Records 814 631 - 7
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo · Paper Labels
Runout / matrix

NT-105 A1 TOWNHOUSE MPORunout side A, variant 1

NT-105 B1 MPORunout side B, variant 1

NT-105 A2 TOWNHOUSE MPORunout side A, variant 2

NT-105 B2 MPO TOWNHOUSERunout side B, variant 2

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UK

1983
Label and catalog number
Neutron Records NTXDJ 105
Format
12", 45 RPM, Advance, Promo
Runout / matrix

NTX 105 A // 1 ▽ 4 2 0 H TOWNHOUSE 1 1 1Runout side A

NTX 105 B // 1 ▽ 4 2 0 H TOWNHOUSE 1 1 1Runout side B

Full details of this pressing

Country unknown

1983
Label and catalog number
Neutron Records NT 105
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single
Runout / matrix

NT 105 A/1 420 H TOWNHOUSE A1Side A

NT 105 B/1 420 H TOWNHOUSE A2Side B

Full details of this pressing

Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 24 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1980s24 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1983UnknownNeutron Records NT 105First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983AustraliaMercury 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983CanadaVertigo SOV 2331 / Neutron Records SOV 2331First year7", Single, 45 RPM7", Single, 45 RPM
1983CanadaVertigo DJV 125First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Promo · Promo12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Promo · Promo
1983FranceVertigo 814 631 7 / Vertigo 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983GermanyVertigo 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
1983GreeceMercury 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983IrelandMercury NT 105First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983ItalyMercury 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983JapanMercury 7PP-120First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Stereo
1983JapanMercury 7PP-120First year7", Single, Promo, Stereo · Promo7", Single, Promo, Stereo · Promo
1983NetherlandsMercury 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
1983New ZealandMercury 814 631-7First year7", Single7", Single
1983PortugalMercury 814 631-7First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1983South AfricaMercury TOS 1460First year7", Single7", Single
All 24 pressings from the 1980s

Tracklist

  1. AThat Was Then But This Is Now
  2. BVertigo

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of That Was Then But This Is Now are there?

24 vinyl pressings of That Was Then But This Is Now are listed here, from 15 countries.

When was That Was Then But This Is Now first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1983, in UK, US, Australia, Canada and more. One of them is Neutron Records NT 105, released October 1983.

How do I tell if my copy of That Was Then But This Is Now is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use NT 105, NTX 105, NTXDJ 105, 814 631-7) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, NT 105 A // 1 ▽ 420 H TOWNHOWN and NT 105 B // 2 ▽ 420 H TOWNHOUSE. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is That Was Then But This Is Now on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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