Netherlands
1986- Label and catalog number
- Jive 145.232
- Format
- 7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
- Runout / matrix
145.232-A//59595-1Runout (Stamped) side A
145.232-BRunout (Etched) side B
145.232-ALabel side A
145.232-BLabel side B

Vinyl pressings
by Billy Ocean · 1986
There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry) was first pressed on vinyl in 1986. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
44 pressings came out in 1986, the album's first year, in 18 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
145.232-A//59595-1Runout (Stamped) side A
145.232-BRunout (Etched) side B
145.232-ALabel side A
145.232-BLabel side B
JIVE-117-A1Etched Runout - Side A
JIVE-117-B1Etched Runout - Side B
POUNDA TA1PEEtched Runout - Side A
DAMONTEtched Runout - Side B
JIVE T - 117 - A2. DAMONTA Side Runout
JIVE T - 117 - B2. DAMONTB Side Runout
JS1-9465-SASide A Label
JS1-9465-SBSide B Label
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1986 | Australia | Liberation Records LS1754 / Jive LS1754First year7", Single | 7", Single |
| 1986 | Australia | Jive LMD 470First year12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM | 12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM |
| 1986 | Australia | Liberation Records LS1754 / Jive LS1754First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1986 | Bolivia | Jive JIS - 005First year7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single | 7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single |
| 1986 | Canada | Jive 7JV-7147First year7" | 7" |
| 1986 | El Salvador | RCA Victor RUS-133First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1986 | Germany | Jive 6.20562 / Teldec 6.20562First year12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM | 12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM |
| 1986 | Germany | Jive 6.14575First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1986 | Germany | Jive 6.14575First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1986 | Ireland | Jive JIVE 117First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1986 | Italy | Jive JIVE 5010First year7", 45 RPM | 7", 45 RPM |
| 1986 | Japan | Alfa ALI-12015First year12", 45 RPM, Promo, Stereo · Promo | 12", 45 RPM, Promo, Stereo · Promo |
| 1986 | Netherlands | Jive 145.232First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1986 | Netherlands | Jive 151.216First year12" | 12" |
| 1986 | Netherlands | Jive 145.232First year7", Single, 45 RPM | 7", Single, 45 RPM |
44 vinyl pressings of There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry) are listed here, from 18 countries.
The earliest pressings are from 1986, in Netherlands, UK, US, Ireland and more. One of them is Jive 145.232.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 145.232, 151.216, JIVE 117, JIVE T 117) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, 145.232-A//59595-1 and 145.232-B. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.