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Vinyl pressings

For All We Know

by Carpenters · 1971

21 pressings9 countriesVocalPop

For All We Know was first pressed on vinyl in 1971. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of For All We Know

19 pressings came out in 1971, the album's first year, in 9 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

January 15, 1971
Label and catalog number
A&M Records AM-1243-S
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo · Pitman Pressing
Runout / matrix

p(stamped/inverted) A+M 2085S-P3(scribed)A side deadwax, variant 1

p(stamped/inverted) A+M 2086S-P2(scribed)B side deadwax, variant 1

p(stamped/inverted) A+M 2085S-P3(scribed)A side deadwax, variant 2

p(stamped/inverted) A+M 2086S-P1(scribed)B side deadwax, variant 2

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US

January 15, 1971
Label and catalog number
A&M Records AM1243A&M Records 1243
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene · Terre Haute Pressing
Runout / matrix

A+M 2085S-T3A side deadwax - scribed

A+M 2086S-T2B side deadwax - scribed

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US

January 15, 1971
Label and catalog number
A&M Records 1243-S
Format
7", Single, 45 RPM · Santa Maria Pressing
Runout / matrix

A+M 2085S-S2A side deadwax - scribed

A+M 2086S-S3B side deadwax - scribed

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US

1971
Label and catalog number
A&M Records 1243-SA&M Records AM 1243
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo · Monarch Pressing
Runout / matrix

A+M 2085S-MI MR △83674 (3)A-Side Runout Etching

A+M 2086S-MI MR △83674-X (2)B-Side Runout Etching

A+M 2085S-M2 MR △83674 (1)A-Side Runout Etching

A+M 2086S-MI MR △83674-X (2)B-Side Runout Etching

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US

1971
Label and catalog number
A&M Records 1243-S
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo · Monarch Pressing
Runout / matrix

A+M 2085S-MI MR △83674 (3)A-Side Runout Etching

A+M 2086S-MI MR △83674-X (2)B-Side Runout Etching

A+M 2085S-M2 MR △83674 (1)A-Side Runout Etching

A+M 2086S-MI MR △83674-X (2)B-Side Runout Etching

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US

1971
Label and catalog number
A&M Records AM-70173A&M Records 1243-S
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
Runout / matrix

AM-70173-A4Runout Side A

AM-70173-B5Runout Side B

AM-70173-ALabel Side A

AM-70173-BLabel Side B

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Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 21 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1970s20 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1971ArgentinaA&M Records 1400First year7", Single7", Single
1971AustraliaA&M Records AMK-4129First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1971BarbadosA&M Records 1243First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
1971BrazilA&M Records 7AM-5057First year7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo
1971CanadaA&M Records AM-1243-SFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1971CanadaA&M Records AM-12437", 45 RPM, Single, Repress7", 45 RPM, Single, Repress
1971GermanyA&M Records 10 039 ATFirst year7", Single, 45 RPM7", Single, 45 RPM
1971New ZealandA&M Records AMK-4129First year7", Single, 45 RPM7", Single, 45 RPM
1971New ZealandA&M Records AMK-4129First year7", Single, 45 RPM7", Single, 45 RPM
1971South AfricaA&M Records AMS 583First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1971USA&M Records 1243-S / A&M Records 1243First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo, Stereo, Mono · Promo, Mono7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo, Stereo, Mono · Promo, Mono
1971USA&M Records 1243-S / A&M Records AM 1243First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo
1971USA&M Records 1243-SFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene, Stereo
1971USA&M Records AM-70173 / A&M Records 1243-SFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
1971USA&M Records 1243 / A&M Records 1243-SFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo, Stereo, Mono · Promo, Mono7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo, Stereo, Mono · Promo, Mono
All 20 pressings from the 1970s
Year unknown1 pressing
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
?CanadaA&M Records AM-12437", 45 RPM, Single, Repress7", 45 RPM, Single, Repress

Tracklist

  1. AFor All We Know2:28
  2. BDon't Be Afraid2:05

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of For All We Know are there?

21 vinyl pressings of For All We Know are listed here, from 9 countries.

When was For All We Know first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1971, in US, Argentina, Australia, Barbados and more. One of them is A&M Records AM-1243-S, released January 15, 1971.

How do I tell if my copy of For All We Know is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use AM-1243-S, AM1243, 1243-S, AM-70173) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, p(stamped/inverted) A+M 2085S-P3(scribed) and p(stamped/inverted) A+M 2086S-P2(scribed). Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is For All We Know on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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