US
1961- Label and catalog number
- New Jazz NJ 8257New Jazz NJLP 8257
- Format
- LP, Album, Mono
- Runout / matrix
Side A: RVG NJLP-8257BSide A actually stamped "B"
Side B: RVG NJLP-8257-[scratched out] ASide B actually stamped "A"
Don EllisNew Ideas
Vinyl pressings
New Ideas
by Don Ellis · 1961
12 pressings4 countriesFree JazzPost BopModalJazz
New Ideas was first pressed on vinyl in 1961. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
How to spot a first pressing of New Ideas
2 pressings came out in 1961, the album's first year, in 2 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
Japan
1961- Label and catalog number
- New Jazz SMJ-7044Top Rank International SRANK-7005
- Format
- LP, Album, Stereo
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
All 12 vinyl pressings
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
1960s5 pressings
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1961 | Japan | New Jazz SMJ-7044 / Top Rank International SRANK-7005First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1961 | US | New Jazz NJ 8257 / New Jazz NJLP 8257First yearLP, Album, Mono · Mono | LP, Album, Mono · Mono |
| 1963 | UK | Esquire 32-183LP, Album, Mono · Mono | LP, Album, Mono · Mono |
| 1969 | US | Prestige PRST 7607LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
| 1969 | US | Prestige PRST 7607 / Prestige PR 7607LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
1970s5 pressings
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1971 | US | Prestige P-7607 / Prestige PR 7607LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
| 1972 | US | Prestige PR 7607LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| 1972 | US | Prestige PR 7607 / Prestige 7607LP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1974 | Germany | Bellaphon BJS 40125 / Prestige BJS 40125LP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1977 | US | Prestige PR 7607 / Prestige PRT-7607LP, Album, Reissue, Repress | LP, Album, Reissue, Repress |
1990s1 pressing
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1990 | US | Original Jazz Classics OJC-431 / Prestige NJ-8257LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered | LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered |
Year unknown1 pressing
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | US | Prestige NJ 8257 / Prestige NJLP 8257LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
Tracklist
- A1Natural H.
- A2Despair To Hope
- A3Uh-Huh
- A4Four And Three
- B1Imitation
- B2Solo
- B3Cock And Bull
- B4Tragedy
Questions
How many vinyl pressings of New Ideas are there?
12 vinyl pressings of New Ideas are listed here, from 4 countries, released between 1961 and 1990.
When was New Ideas first released on vinyl?
The earliest pressings are from 1961, in US, Japan. One of them is New Jazz NJ 8257.
How do I tell if my copy of New Ideas is a first pressing?
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use NJ 8257, SMJ-7044) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, Side A: RVG NJLP-8257B and Side B: RVG NJLP-8257-[scratched out] A. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
How much is New Ideas on vinyl worth?
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
