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Turtle Bay

by Herbie Mann · 1973

17 pressings8 countriesJazz-RockJazz-FunkJazz

Turtle Bay was first pressed on vinyl in 1973. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of Turtle Bay

12 pressings came out in 1973, the album's first year, in 8 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

1973
Label and catalog number
Atlantic SD 1642
Format
LP, Album, Stereo · PR - Presswell Pressing, Embossed Cover
Runout / matrix

ST-A-732878-A AT/GP PRSide A runout/etched

ST-A-732877 B AT/gP PRSide B runout/etched

ST-A-732878 PRSide A label

ST-A-732877 PRSide B label

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US

1973
Label and catalog number
Atlantic SD 1642
Format
LP, Album · RI - Richmond Pressing, Embossed Cover
Runout / matrix

ST-A-732878RISide A Label

ST-A-732877RISide B Label

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US

1973
Label and catalog number
Atlantic SD 1642
Format
LP, Album · MO, Monarch Pressing, Embossed
Runout / matrix

ST-A-732878 A-A AT GP (MR) Δ18077-X PRSide A runout

ST-A-732878 B-B RE AT GP (MR) Δ18077(2) PRSide B runout

ST-A-732878-MOSide A Label

ST-A-732877-MOSide B Label

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US

1973
Label and catalog number
Atlantic SD 1642
Format
LP, Album, Promo · RI - Richmond Pressing, Embossed Cover
Runout / matrix

ST-A-732878RISide A Label

ST-A-732877RISide B Label

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UK

1973
Label and catalog number
Atlantic K 50020Atlantic SD 1642
Format
LP, Album · Embossed Cover
Runout / matrix

K 50020 A1Runout side A, variant 1

K 50020 B1 KIPRunout side B, variant 1

K 50020 B1 A1 C ARunout side A, variant 2

K 50020 A1 B1 KIP 5Runout side B, variant 2

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Canada

1973
Label and catalog number
Atlantic SD 1642
Format
LP, Album
Runout / matrix

ST-A-732878-1A C2-HKUp Side

ST-A-732877-1A C2-HKDown Side

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Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 17 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1970s14 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1973CanadaAtlantic SD 1642First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973FranceAtlantic ATL 50 020, SD 1642First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973GermanyAtlantic ATL 50 020 / Atlantic SD 1642First yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1973GermanyAtlantic ATL 50 020 / Atlantic SD 1642First yearLP, Album, Promo · PromoLP, Album, Promo · Promo
1973IsraelAtlantic K 50020 / Atlantic SD 1642First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973JapanAtlantic P-8372AFirst yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1973South AfricaAtlantic ATC 9478First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973UKAtlantic K 50020 / Atlantic SD 1642First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973USAtlantic SD 1642First yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1973USAtlantic SD 1642First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973USAtlantic SD 1642First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1973USAtlantic SD 1642LP, Album, ReissueLP, Album, Reissue
1973USAtlantic SW-95215 / Atlantic SD 1642LP, Album, Club Edition · Club editionLP, Album, Club Edition · Club edition
1973USAtlantic SD 1642First yearLP, Album, Promo · PromoLP, Album, Promo · Promo
Year unknown3 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
?USAtlantic SD 1642LP, Album, ReissueLP, Album, Reissue
?USAtlantic SD 1642LP, Album, Repress, StereoLP, Album, Repress, Stereo
?USAtlantic SD 1642LP, Album, ReissueLP, Album, Reissue

Tracklist

  1. Up Side
  2. A1Family Affair3:02
  3. A2Never Ending Song Of Love5:47
  4. A3Rainy Night In Georgia3:57
  5. A4(Just An Old) Balalaika Love Song3:46
  6. A5Reverend Lee3:00
  7. Down Side
  8. B1Turtle Bay2:45
  9. B2In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed3:37
  10. B3A Theme From "Cries And Whispers"3:24
  11. B4Do It Again3:00
  12. B5Now I've Found A Lady (Soul Rachanga)3:36
  13. B6Happier Than The Morning Sun2:59

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of Turtle Bay are there?

17 vinyl pressings of Turtle Bay are listed here, from 8 countries.

When was Turtle Bay first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1973, in US, UK, Canada, France and more. One of them is Atlantic SD 1642.

How do I tell if my copy of Turtle Bay is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use SD 1642, K 50020, ATL 50 020, SD 1642, ATL 50 020) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, ST-A-732878-A AT/GP PR and ST-A-732877 B AT/gP PR. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is Turtle Bay on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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