US
1998- Label and catalog number
- Doghouse Records DOG 052
- Format
- LP, Album
- Runout / matrix
DOG-052-AEtched Runout Side A
DOG-052-BEtched Runout Side B

Vinyl pressings
by Hot Water Music · 1998
Forever And Counting was first pressed on vinyl in 1998. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
4 pressings came out in 1998, the album's first year. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
DOG-052-AEtched Runout Side A
DOG-052-BEtched Runout Side B
DOG-052-ASide A
DOG-052-BSide B
DOG-052-ASide A
DOG-052-BSide B
DOG-052-ASide A
DOG-052-BSide B
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1998 | US | Doghouse Records DOG 052First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1998 | US | Doghouse Records DOG 052First yearLP, Album · Colored vinyl | LP, Album · Colored vinyl |
| 1998 | US | Doghouse Records DOG 052First yearLP, Album · Colored vinyl | LP, Album · Colored vinyl |
| 1998 | US | Doghouse Records DOG 052First yearLP, Album · Colored vinyl | LP, Album · Colored vinyl |
| 1998 | US | Doghouse Records DOG 052LP, Album, Test Pressing · Test pressing | LP, Album, Test Pressing · Test pressing |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2002 | Germany | Defiance Records DefianceRecords XXXILP, Album | LP, Album |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2008 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue |
| 2010 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2012 | US | No Idea Records NIR-217LP, Repress · Colored vinyl | LP, Repress · Colored vinyl |
| 2012 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2012 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2012 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Repress, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2013 | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217 / No Idea Records NIR-217LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Reissue · Colored vinyl |
| 2015 | US | No Idea Records NIR-217LP, Album, Numbered, Reissue · Numbered | LP, Album, Numbered, Reissue · Numbered |
| 2016 | US | Rise Records RISE 182-1LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue · Limited, Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue · Limited, Colored vinyl |
| 2016 | US | Rise Records RISE 182-1LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue · Limited, Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue · Limited, Colored vinyl |
| 2016 | US | Rise Records RISE 182-1LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue, Test Pressing · Test pressing, Limited | LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue, Test Pressing · Test pressing, Limited |
| 2019 | US | Rise Records RISE 182-1LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue · Limited | LP, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue · Limited |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | US | No Idea Records NO IDEA 217LP, Album, Test Pressing, White Label · Test pressing | LP, Album, Test Pressing, White Label · Test pressing |
26 vinyl pressings of Forever And Counting are listed here, from 2 countries, released between 1998 and 2019.
The earliest pressings are from 1998, in US. One of them is Doghouse Records DOG 052.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use DOG 052) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, DOG-052-A and DOG-052-B. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.