Vinyl pressings
by James Brown & The Famous Flames · 1968
I Guess I'll Have To Cry, Cry, Cry was first pressed on vinyl in 1968. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
13 pressings came out in 1968, the album's first year, in 6 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
K-45-12501-9 TIA-Side runout etching, variant 1
K-45-12446-9 [initials] TIB-Side runout etching, variant 1
K-45-12501-9 TI MA-Side runout etching, variant 2
K-45-12446-10 [signature] TIB-Side runout etching, variant 2
K-45-12501-5A Runout Etching
K-45-12446-5B Runout Etching
K-45-12446-5Side B (etched)
K-45-12501-2A-Side label (etched)
K-45-12501-5A-Side runout etching
K-45-12446-2B-Side runout etching
K-12501A-Side Label
K-12446B-Side Label
K-45-12501-1 RA-Side Runout Etching
K-45-12446-4 RB-Side Runout Etching
K-12501A-Side Label
K-12446B-Side Label
K-12501A-Side Label
K-12446B-Side Label
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1968 | Canada | Delta D-3245First year7" | 7" |
| 1968 | France | Polydor 421 400First year7" | 7" |
| 1968 | Germany | Polydor 59 226First year7", Single, Mono · Mono | 7", Single, Mono · Mono |
| 1968 | Germany | Polydor 59 226First year7", Single, Promo · Promo | 7", Single, Promo · Promo |
| 1968 | Germany | Polydor 59 226First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | Italy | Polydor 59 226First year7", 45 RPM, Mono · Mono | 7", 45 RPM, Mono · Mono |
| 1968 | Spain | Polydor 60 035First year7", Single | 7", Single |
| 1968 | US | King Records 45-6141First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene |
| 1968 | US | King Records 45-6141First year7" | 7" |
| 1968 | US | King Records 45-6141First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | US | King Records 45-6141First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
| 1968 | US | King Records 45-6141First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | US | King Records 45-6141First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
13 vinyl pressings of I Guess I'll Have To Cry, Cry, Cry are listed here, from 6 countries.
The earliest pressings are from 1968, in US, Canada, France, Germany and more. One of them is King Records 45-6141.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 45-6141, D-3245, 421 400, 59 226) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, K-45-12501-9 TI and K-45-12446-9 [initials] TI. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
