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Lies

by Jonathan Butler · 1987

26 pressings18 countriesContemporary R&BNew Jack SwingFunk / Soul

Lies was first pressed on vinyl in 1987. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of Lies

26 pressings came out in 1987, the album's first year, in 18 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

1987
Label and catalog number
Jive 1043-1-JD
Format
12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo
Runout / matrix

1043·1·JD·A - 1 F|W ¢ A1BSide A Runout

1043·1·JD·B - 1 A1ASide B Runout

1043-1-JD-ASide A Label

1043-1-JD-BSide B Label

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US

1987
Label and catalog number
Jive 1038-7-J
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene
Runout / matrix

I A1 1038-7-JA-1 F/w¢A-Side Runout Etching

I A1 1038-7-JB-1B-Side Runout Etching

1038-7-J-AA-Side Label

1038-7-J-BB-Side Label

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UK

1987
Label and catalog number
Jive JIVE 141
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single
Runout / matrix

JIVE-141-A1 -MT. DAMONT TOWNHOUSERunout, Side A, Etched

JIVE-141-B1 MT.-Runout, Side B, Etched

JIVE-141-A1 -MT. DAMONT TOWNHOUSERunout, Side A, Etched, Variant 2

JIVE-141-B1 MT.- DAMONTRunout, Side B, Etched, Variant 2

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Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 26 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1980s26 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1987BeneluxJive 145.312First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
1987CanadaJive 1038-7-JFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1987Costa RicaRCA Victor 7055026First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1987EuropeJive ZB41533First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Stereo
1987GermanyJive 6.14839First year7", Single7", Single
1987GermanyJive ZT41534First year12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM
1987GermanyJive 6.20759 / Teldec 6.20759First year12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM12", Maxi-Single, 45 RPM
1987GreeceJive 4507First year12", 45 RPM12", 45 RPM
1987ItalyJive ZB 41305First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1987NetherlandsJive 151.248First year12"12"
1987New ZealandJive K 321First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1987PortugalJive 514494First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1987South AfricaJive JIVS 146First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1987SpainJive SPTO 51018First year12", 45 RPM, Maxi-Single12", 45 RPM, Maxi-Single
1987SpainJive SPBO 51017First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
All 26 pressings from the 1980s

Tracklist

  1. ALies (Edited Version)3:57
  2. BHaunted By Your Love4:02

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of Lies are there?

26 vinyl pressings of Lies are listed here, from 18 countries.

When was Lies first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1987, in US, UK, Japan, Australia and more. One of them is Jive 1043-1-JD.

How do I tell if my copy of Lies is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 1043-1-JD, 1038-7-J, 1043-1-JDCD, 1038-7-JAA) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, 1043·1·JD·A - 1 F|W ¢ A1B and 1043·1·JD·B - 1 A1A. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is Lies on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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