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Vinyl pressings

Say No More

by Les Dudek · 1977

17 pressings6 countriesRhythm & BluesBlues RockSoulRock

Say No More was first pressed on vinyl in 1977. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of Say No More

14 pressings came out in 1977, the album's first year, in 6 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

March 1977
Label and catalog number
Columbia PC 34397
Format
LP, Album, Stereo · Pitman Pressing, Gene & Wally Etchings
Runout / matrix

PAL-34397 1-D wly MASTERED BY CAPITOLRunout Side A, Etched, MASTERED BY CAPITOL Stamped

PBL-34397-1G ƐRT MASTERED BY CAPITOL PRunout Side B, Etched, MASTERED BY CAPITOL P Stamped

AL 34397Label Side A

BL 34397Label Side B

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US

1977
Label and catalog number
Columbia PC 34397
Format
LP, Album, Stereo · Pitman Press
Runout / matrix

PAL-34397 1-D MASTERED BY CAPITOL Wly PRunout A etch; MASTERED, P stamp [Var 1]

o P PBL-34397 1-J MASTERED BY CAPITOL WlyRunout B etch; o P, MASTERED stamp [Var 1]

PAL-34397 1-B MASTERED BY CAPITOL Wly 1-5 A 7Runout A etch; MASTERED stamp [Var 2

PBL-34397 1-B MASTERED BY CAPITOL Wly 1-5 B 5Runout B etch; MASTERED stamp [Var 2]

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US

1977
Label and catalog number
CBS PC 34397
Format
LP, Album · Pitman Pressing
Runout / matrix

PAL-34397 1-DRunout Side A, Etched

wlyRunout Side A, Etched

PBL-34397-1GRunout Side B, Etched

ƐRTRunout Side B, Etched

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US

1977
Label and catalog number
Columbia PC 34397
Format
LP, Album, Stereo · Terre Haute Press
Runout / matrix

PAL-34397 1-E Wly o T1Runout A etched; o stamped

o P PBL-34397 1-E Wly MASTERED BY CAPITOL o T1Runout B etched; o stamped

MASTERED BY CAPITOLRunout A & B, stamped

AL 34397Label A

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US

1977
Label and catalog number
CBS PC 34397
Format
LP, Album
Runout / matrix

PAL-34397 1-DRunout Side A, Etched

wlyRunout Side A, Etched

PBL-34397-1GRunout Side B, Etched

ƐRTRunout Side B, Etched

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US

1977
Label and catalog number
Columbia PC 34397Columbia 34397
Format
LP, Album, Stereo · Santa Maria Press
Runout / matrix

1S PAL-34397-1B Wly ᴍᴀsᴛᴇʀᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴄᴀᴘɪᴛᴏʟ A4Side A, variant 1

1S PBL-34397 1-B Wly ᴍᴀsᴛᴇʀᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴄᴀᴘɪᴛᴏʟ A4Side B, variant 1

1S PAL-34397 1-A o Wly ᴍᴀsᴛᴇʀᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴄᴀᴘɪᴛᴏʟ B5Side A, variant 2

1S PBL-34397 1-B o Wly ᴍᴀsᴛᴇʀᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴄᴀᴘɪᴛᴏʟ A1Side B, variant 2

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Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 17 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1970s16 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1977AustraliaCBS SBP 234979First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977JapanCBS/Sony 25AP 511First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977JapanCBS/Sony Lp-1175First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977PhilippinesColumbia LP 1175First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977UKCBS S CBS 81758First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977UKCBS S CBS 81758LP, Test Pressing · Test pressingLP, Test Pressing · Test pressing
1977UKCBS CBS 81758First yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1977USColumbia PC 34397First yearLP, Album, Promo · PromoLP, Album, Promo · Promo
1977USColumbia PC 34397First yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1977USCBS PC 34397First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977USColumbia PC 34397First yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1977USCBS PC 34397First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1977USColumbia PC 34397LP, Album, Test Pressing · Test pressingLP, Album, Test Pressing · Test pressing
1977USColumbia PC 34397 / Columbia 34397First yearLP, Album, StereoLP, Album, Stereo
1977CanadaColumbia PC 34397First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
All 16 pressings from the 1970s
Year unknown1 pressing
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
?USColumbia PC 34397LP, Album, Reissue, StereoLP, Album, Reissue, Stereo

Tracklist

  1. A1Jailabamboozle4:52
  2. A2Lady You're Nasty5:33
  3. A3One To Beam Up3:25
  4. A4Avatar7:00
  5. B1Old Judge Jones4:39
  6. B2Baby Sweet Baby2:10
  7. B3What's It Gonna Be5:07
  8. B4Zorro Rides Again5:47
  9. B5I Remember3:05

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of Say No More are there?

17 vinyl pressings of Say No More are listed here, from 6 countries.

When was Say No More first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1977, in US, UK, Canada, Australia and more. One of them is Columbia PC 34397, released March 1977.

How do I tell if my copy of Say No More is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use PC 34397, S CBS 81758, CBS 81758, SBP 234979) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, PAL-34397 1-D wly MASTERED BY CAPITOL and PBL-34397-1G ƐRT MASTERED BY CAPITOL P. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is Say No More on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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