Vinyl pressings
by Lionel Richie · 1985
Say You, Say Me was first pressed on vinyl in 1985. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
61 pressings came out in 1985, the album's first year, in 27 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
DM B-3635 A-1/85 S IIRunout side A, variant 1
DM B-3635 B-3/85S .IIRunout side B, variant 1
DM B-3635 A-1/85 S II III.Runout side A, variant 2
DM B-3635 B-2/85S II IIRunout side B, variant 2
DM B-3677 A-1 / 85 S I IIRunout side A, variant 1
DM B-3677 B-1 / 85 S I IIRunout side B, variant 1
DM B-3677 A-1 / 85 S IRunout side A, variant 2
DM B-3677 B-1 / 85 S IRunout side B, variant 2
DS DM B-3635 A-1/85 S II ̶I̶V̶ VII.Runout side A, stamped [etched "DS"]
DM B-3635 B-2/85S II ̶I̶I̶ VI.Runout side B, stamped
ZT 40422 A2 Penthouse ∴Runout etched/stamped side A
ZT.40422.B1 Penthouse ⋀Runout etched/stamped side B
DM B-3635 A-1/85 S II IV VRunout, side A, variant 1
DM B-3635 B-2/85S II IIRunout, side B, variant 1
DM B-3635 A-1/85 S II IIIRunout, side A, variant 2
DM B-3635 B-2/85S IIRunout, side B, variant 2
ZT 40422 A2 Penthouse ⋀Side A runout
ZT 40422 B2 Penthouse BSide B runout
ZT 40422 A*Side A label
ZT 40422 B*Side B label
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1985 | Australia | Motown 1819 MFFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1985 | Australia | Motown 1819-MFFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1985 | Australia | Motown 1819 MFFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1985 | Australia | Motown 1819-MFFirst year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1985 | Barbados | Motown 1819MFFirst year7", 45 RPM | 7", 45 RPM |
| 1985 | Barbados | Tamla Motown 1819MFFirst year7", 45 RPM | 7", 45 RPM |
| 1985 | Bolivia | Motown MOS-011First year7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single | 7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single |
| 1985 | Brazil | RCA 100.8074First year12", 45 RPM | 12", 45 RPM |
| 1985 | Brazil | Motown 101.8320 / Motown 1018320First year7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo | 7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1985 | Canada | Motown 1819First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Stereo |
| 1985 | Canada | Motown M 1819X / Motown M-1819First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Stereo |
| 1985 | Ecuador | Motown 112-0615First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
| 1985 | Ecuador | Motown 112-0615First year7", 45 RPM | 7", 45 RPM |
| 1985 | El Salvador | Motown MTN-012First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1985 | Europe | Motown ZB40421First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo |
69 vinyl pressings of Say You, Say Me are listed here, from 28 countries, released between 1985 and 1986.
The earliest pressings are from 1985, in Europe, UK, US, Australia & New Zealand and more. One of them is Motown ZB40421.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use ZB40421, ZT40422, ZT 40422, ZB 40421) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, DM B-3635 A-1/85 S II and DM B-3635 B-3/85S .II. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
