US
1988- Label and catalog number
- Epic 49 08178
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo
- Runout / matrix
(MP) XSS 08178A-1B G1 VLADORunout side A
XSS 08178B-1A G1 VLADORunout side B
XSS 08178ALabel side A
Vinyl pressings
by Luther Vandross · 1988
She Won't Talk To Me was first pressed on vinyl in 1988. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
7 pressings came out in 1988, the album's first year, in 4 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
(MP) XSS 08178A-1B G1 VLADORunout side A
XSS 08178B-1A G1 VLADORunout side B
XSS 08178ALabel side A
ZSS 08513 A-1A DMM G2 2 STERLING DMM gr A9A-Side Runout Etching, Variant 1
ZSS 08513 B-1A DMM G1 STERLING DMM 2 gr A5B-Side Runout Etching, Variant 1
ZSS 08513 A-1A DMM G2 2 STERLING DMM gr B6A-Side Runout Etching, Variant 2
ZSS 08513 B-1A DMM G1 STERLING DMM 2 gr A6B-Side Runout Etching, Variant 2
Δ MX 251475 654517·6 S1.Side A runout, hand-etched
Δ MX 251476 654517·6 S2Side B runout, hand-etched
MX251475Side A label
MX251476Side B label
MX 251473Side A
654517.7 S1Side A
MX 251474Side B
654517.7 S2Side B
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1988 | Australia | Epic 654517 6First year12", 45 RPM | 12", 45 RPM |
| 1988 | Australia | Epic 654517 7First year7", Single | 7", Single |
| 1988 | Canada | Epic 34 08513First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1988 | Europe | Epic 654517 7 / Epic EPC 654517 7First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1988 | US | Epic 49 08178First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1988 | US | Epic 34-08513First year7", 45 RPM, Styrene | 7", 45 RPM, Styrene |
| 1988 | US | Epic 34-08513First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
| 1989 | UK | Epic LUTH EP 97", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP, Stereo | 7", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP, Stereo |
| 1989 | UK | Epic LUTH T912", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo | 12", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo |
| 1989 | UK | Epic LUTH 97", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1989 | UK | Epic LUTH QT912" | 12" |
11 vinyl pressings of She Won't Talk To Me are listed here, from 5 countries, released between 1988 and 1989.
The earliest pressings are from 1988, in US, Australia, Canada, Europe. One of them is Epic 49 08178.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 49 08178, 34-08513, 654517 6, 654517 7) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, (MP) XSS 08178A-1B G1 VLADO and XSS 08178B-1A G1 VLADO. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.