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ManhattansThere's No Me Without You / I'm Not A Run Around

Vinyl pressings

There's No Me Without You / I'm Not A Run Around

by Manhattans · 1973

22 pressings9 countriesSoulFunk / Soul

There's No Me Without You was first pressed on vinyl in 1973. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of There's No Me Without You

22 pressings came out in 1973, the album's first year, in 9 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

1973
Label and catalog number
Columbia 4-45838
Format
7", 45 RPM, Styrene, Stereo
Runout / matrix

p ZSS-158284-1B F/wA side runout

p ZSS-158285-1C EC F/wB side runout

ZSS 158284A side label

ZSS 158285B side label

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US

1973
Label and catalog number
Columbia 4-45838
Format
7", 45 RPM, Stereo · Gloversville Pressing
Runout / matrix

ZSS-158284-1AC ⧈-G-⧈A side runout

ZSS-158285-1AB ⧈-G-⧈B side runout

ZSS 158284A side label

ZSS 158285B side label

Full details of this pressing

US

1973
Label and catalog number
Columbia 4-45838
Format
7", 45 RPM, Stereo · Scranton Pressing
Runout / matrix

Z S S 158284-1J IAMA side runout

Z S S 158285-1K IAMB side runout

ZSS 158284A side label

ZSS 158285B side label

Full details of this pressing

US

1973
Label and catalog number
Columbia 4-45838
Format
7", 45 RPM, Stereo · Santa Maria Pressing
Runout / matrix

ZSS-158284-1F (MM) F/W SSSA side runout

ZSS-158285-1G (BB) F/W SSSB side runout

ZSS 158284A side label

ZSS 158285B side label

Full details of this pressing

US

1973
Label and catalog number
Columbia 4-45838
Format
7", 45 RPM, Promo, Stereo, Mono
Runout / matrix

JZSP-158283-1A SJR F/WMono Side Runout

ZSS-158284-1C SJR F/WStereo Side Runout

JZSP 158283Mono Side Label

JZSS 158284Stereo Side Label

Full details of this pressing

US

1973
Label and catalog number
Columbia 4-45838
Format
7", 45 RPM, Promo, Styrene, Stereo, Mono
Runout / matrix

JZSP-158283-1D Fw TIA-Side Runout

ZSS-158284-1D SJR F/W TIB-Side Runout

JZSP 158283A-Side Label

JZSS 158284B-Side Label

Full details of this pressing

Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 22 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1970s22 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1973BrazilCBS 33803First year7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single
1973CanadaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Stereo
1973GermanyCBS CBS S 1542 / CBS CBS 1542First year7", Single, 45 RPM7", Single, 45 RPM
1973GermanyCBS CBS S 1542 / CBS 1542First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo · Promo7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo · Promo
1973ItalyCBS CBS 3069First year7", 45 RPM7", 45 RPM
1973JamaicaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1973JamaicaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1973JamaicaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1973JamaicaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM7", 45 RPM
1973JamaicaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM7", 45 RPM
1973JamaicaColumbia 4-45838First year7", 45 RPM7", 45 RPM
1973NetherlandsCBS CBS 1542First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Stereo
1973SpainCBS CBS 1542First year7"7"
1973UKCBS S CBS 1542First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo
1973UKCBS S CBS 1542First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo7", 45 RPM, Stereo
All 22 pressings from the 1970s

Tracklist

  1. AThere's No Me Without You3:28
  2. BI'm Not A Run Around3:14

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of There's No Me Without You are there?

22 vinyl pressings of There's No Me Without You are listed here, from 9 countries.

When was There's No Me Without You first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1973, in US, UK, Brazil, Canada and more. One of them is Columbia 4-45838.

How do I tell if my copy of There's No Me Without You is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 4-45838, S CBS 1542, 33803, CBS S 1542) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, p ZSS-158284-1B F/w and p ZSS-158285-1C EC F/w. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is There's No Me Without You on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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