US
November 26, 1982- Label and catalog number
- Sugar Hill Records
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, White Label
- Runout / matrix
VID-245-AA-Side Runout Etching
VID-245-BB-Side Runout Etching
Vinyl pressings
Message II (Survival)
by Melle Mel · 1982
19 pressings6 countriesElectroHip Hop
Message II (Survival) was first pressed on vinyl in 1982. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
How to spot a first pressing of Message II (Survival)
15 pressings came out in 1982, the album's first year, in 4 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
US
December 6, 1982- Label and catalog number
- Sugar Hill Records
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, White Label
- Runout / matrix
VID-245-AA-Side Runout Etching
VID-245-BB-Side Runout Etching
US
1982- Label and catalog number
- Sugar Hill Records SH-594
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM
- Runout / matrix
VID-245-AA-Side Runout Etching
VID-245-BB-Side Runout Etching
VID-245-A-RGA-Side Label
VID-245-B-RGB-Side Label
US
1982- Label and catalog number
- Sugar Hill Records SH-594
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM
- Runout / matrix
SH-594-AA-side label
SH-594-BB-side label
(VID-245-A-SU)A-side label
(VID-245-B-SU)B-side label
US
1982- Label and catalog number
- Sugar Hill Records SH 594
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM
- Runout / matrix
VID-245-ASide A runout
VID 245 BSide B runout
SH 594 A (VID 245 A)A-side label
SH 594 B (VID 245 B)B-side label
US
1982- Label and catalog number
- Sugar Hill Records SH-594
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM
- Runout / matrix
VID-245 -A IIIIEtched in runout, Side A
VID 245 BEtched in runout, Side B
SH-594-APrinted on label, Side A
SH-594-BPrinted on label, Side B
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
All 19 vinyl pressings
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
1980s19 pressings
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1982 | Ireland | Sugar Hill Records SH 119First year7", 45 RPM | 7", 45 RPM |
| 1982 | Sweden | Sound Of Scandinavia SOS 1153First year7", 45 RPM, Misprint | 7", 45 RPM, Misprint |
| 1982 | Sweden | Sound Of Scandinavia SOS 1153First year7", 45 RPM, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Stereo |
| 1982 | UK | Sugar Hill Records SHL 119First year12", 45 RPM | 12", 45 RPM |
| 1982 | UK | Sugar Hill Records SH 119First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH 594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-594First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill Records SH-792First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill RecordsFirst year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, White Label | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, White Label |
| 1982 | US | Sugar Hill RecordsFirst year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, White Label | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, White Label |
Tracklist
- AMessage II (Survival)6:50
- BMessage II (Survival) (Instrumental)6:50
Questions
How many vinyl pressings of Message II (Survival) are there?
19 vinyl pressings of Message II (Survival) are listed here, from 6 countries, released between 1982 and 1983.
When was Message II (Survival) first released on vinyl?
The earliest pressings are from 1982, in US, UK, Ireland, Sweden. One of them is Sugar Hill Records, released November 26, 1982.
How do I tell if my copy of Message II (Survival) is a first pressing?
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use SH-594, SH 594, SH-792, SHL 119) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, VID-245-A and VID-245-B. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
How much is Message II (Survival) on vinyl worth?
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.