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Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes

by Propagandhi · 2001

14 pressings4 countriesHardcorePunkRock

Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes was first pressed on vinyl in 2001. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes

3 pressings came out in 2001, the album's first year, in 2 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

February 6, 2001
Label and catalog number
Fat Wreck Chords FAT 617-1Fat Wreck Chords FAT617-1
Format
LP, Album
Runout / matrix

FAT-617 4931.1(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE A ['Dc Bqs' mooshed signature]Side A

FAT-617 4931.2(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE B ['Dc Bqs' mooshed signature]Side B

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US

2001
Label and catalog number
Fat Wreck Chords FAT617-1
Format
LP, Album · Red
Runout / matrix

FAT-617 4931.1(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE A

FAT-617 4931.2(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE B

Full details of this pressing

Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 14 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

2000s4 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
2001CanadaG7 Welcoming Committee Records G7015 LPFirst yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
2001USFat Wreck Chords FAT617-1First yearLP, Album · Colored vinylLP, Album · Colored vinyl
2001USFat Wreck Chords FAT 617-1 / Fat Wreck Chords FAT617-1First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
2009CanadaSmallman Records SMRLP048 / G7 Welcoming Committee Records G7015-1LP, Reissue · Colored vinylLP, Reissue · Colored vinyl
2010s1 pressing
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
2015USFat Wreck Chords FAT617-1LP, Album, Reissue, RepressLP, Album, Reissue, Repress
2020s9 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
2021UnknownFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl
2021UnknownFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl
2021USFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl
2021USFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, RemasteredLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered
2021USFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl
2021USFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl
2022USFat Wreck Chords FAT145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered, Test Pressing · Test pressingLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered, Test Pressing · Test pressing
2026EuropeFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl
2026WorldwideFat Wreck Chords FAT 145-1LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinylLP, Album, Reissue, Remastered · Colored vinyl

Tracklist

  1. A1Mate Ka Moris Ukun Rasik An
  2. A2Fuck The Border
  3. A3Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes
  4. A4Back To The Motor League
  5. A5Natural Disasters
  6. A6With Friends Like These Who The Fuck Needs Cointelpro?
  7. A7Albright Monument, Baghdad
  8. B1Ordinary People Do Fucked-Up Things When Fucked-Up Things Become Ordinary
  9. B2Ladies' Nite In Loserville
  10. B3Ego Fum Papa (I Am The Pope)
  11. B4New Homes For Idle Hands
  12. B5Bullshit Politicians
  13. B6March Of The Crabs
  14. B7Purina Hall Of Fame

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes are there?

14 vinyl pressings of Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes are listed here, from 4 countries, released between 2001 and 2026.

When was Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 2001, in US, Canada. One of them is Fat Wreck Chords FAT 617-1, released February 6, 2001.

How do I tell if my copy of Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use FAT 617-1, FAT617-1, G7015 LP) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, FAT-617 4931.1(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE A ['Dc Bqs' mooshed signature] and FAT-617 4931.2(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE B ['Dc Bqs' mooshed signature]. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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