US
December 1981- Label and catalog number
- 415 Records 415A-0007
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP
- Runout / matrix
415-A-0007-A STERLINGRunout side A
415-A-0007-B STERLINGRunout side B
Vinyl pressings
Never Say Never
by Romeo Void · 1981
24 pressings10 countriesNew WaveRock
Never Say Never was first pressed on vinyl in 1981. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
How to spot a first pressing of Never Say Never
14 pressings came out in 1981, the album's first year, in 4 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
US
1981- Label and catalog number
- Columbia 5C 38178415 Records 5C 38178
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo · Carrollton Pressing
- Runout / matrix
AL-38178-1A C1 STERLING G1Runout side A, variant 1
BL-38178-1A STERLING G1Runout side B, variant 1
AL-38178-1A B1 STERLING G1Runout side A, variant 2
BL-38178-1A B9 STERLING G1Runout side B, variant 2
US
1981- Label and catalog number
- Columbia PC 38178415 Records PC 38178
- Format
- 12"
US
1981- Label and catalog number
- Columbia 38-03378
- Format
- 7", 45 RPM, Styrene
- Runout / matrix
ZSS 170689Printed on A side label
ZSS 170690Printed on B side label
P ZSS-170689-1A STERLINGDeadwax A
P ZSS-170690-1B STERLINGDeadwax B
US
1981- Label and catalog number
- Columbia 38178
- Format
- 12", 33 ⅓ RPM · Import
- Runout / matrix
AL38178-1FEtched Side A
BL-38178-1CEtched Side B
STERLINGStamped Side A
US
1981- Label and catalog number
- Columbia PC 38178415 Records PC 38178
- Format
- 12", Stereo · Pitman Pressing
- Runout / matrix
̶X̶S̶M̶ 1̶70̶1̶8̶4̶-1̶F̶ AL38178-1F STERLING A P 0Side A runout etched, except "STERLING A P 0" - Variant 1
̶X̶S̶M̶ 1̶70̶1̶8̶5̶ 1̶B̶ BL38178-1B STERLING D P 0Side B runout etched, except "STERLING D P 0" - Variant 1
̶X̶S̶M̶ 1̶70̶1̶8̶4̶-1̶F̶ AL38178-1F STERLING A P 0Side A runout etched, except "STERLING A P 0" - Variant 2
̶X̶S̶M̶ 1̶70̶1̶8̶5̶ 1̶B̶ BL38178-1D XG STERLING D P 0Side B runout etched, except "STERLING D P 0" - Variant 2
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
All 24 vinyl pressings
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
1980s23 pressings
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1981 | Australia | Epic EX 12019First year12", Maxi-Single | 12", Maxi-Single |
| 1981 | Australia | Epic EX 12019First year12", Maxi-Single, Promo · Promo | 12", Maxi-Single, Promo · Promo |
| 1981 | Australia | Epic EX 12019First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP, Promo · Promo | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP, Promo · Promo |
| 1981 | Bolivia | CBS 10372First year7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single | 7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single |
| 1981 | New Zealand | Epic EX 12019 / 415 Records EX 12019First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP |
| 1981 | US | Columbia 5C 38178 / 415 Records 5C 38178First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo |
| 1981 | US | Columbia PC 38178 / 415 Records PC 38178First year12" | 12" |
| 1981 | US | Columbia 38-03378First year7", 45 RPM, Styrene | 7", 45 RPM, Styrene |
| 1981 | US | Columbia 38178First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1981 | US | Columbia PC 38178 / 415 Records PC 38178First year12", Stereo | 12", Stereo |
| 1981 | US | Columbia 5C 38178 / 415 Records 5C 38178First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo |
| 1981 | US | Columbia 5C 38178 / 415 Records 5C 38178First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM |
| 1981 | US | Columbia 5C 38178 / 415 Records 5C 38178First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Stereo |
| 1981 | US | 415 Records 415A-0007First year12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, EP |
| 1982 | Europe | CBS CBSA 2733 / CBS A-27337", 45 RPM, Stereo | 7", 45 RPM, Stereo |
Year unknown1 pressing
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | Canada | Columbia WPC 38178 / 415 Records WPC 3817812", 33 ⅓ RPM, Reissue, Stereo | 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Reissue, Stereo |
Tracklist
- A1Never Say Never6:05
- A2In The Dark4:24
- B1Present Tense5:47
- B2Not Safe3:52
Questions
How many vinyl pressings of Never Say Never are there?
24 vinyl pressings of Never Say Never are listed here, from 10 countries, released between 1981 and 1984.
When was Never Say Never first released on vinyl?
The earliest pressings are from 1981, in US, Australia, Bolivia, New Zealand. One of them is 415 Records 415A-0007, released December 1981.
How do I tell if my copy of Never Say Never is a first pressing?
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 415A-0007, 5C 38178, PC 38178, 38-03378) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, 415-A-0007-A STERLING and 415-A-0007-B STERLING. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
How much is Never Say Never on vinyl worth?
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
