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Water Sign

by The Jeff Lorber Fusion · 1979

14 pressings5 countriesJazz-FunkJazz

Water Sign was first pressed on vinyl in 1979. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of Water Sign

9 pressings came out in 1979, the album's first year, in 4 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

US

August 1979
Label and catalog number
Arista AB 4234
Format
LP, Album · Hub Pressing
Runout / matrix

AB 4234 · SA KENDUN-S JG HUBSide A runout

AB 4234 · SB KENDUN-S JG HUBSide B runout etched, KENDUN-A stamped, variant 1

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US

1979
Label and catalog number
Arista AB 4234
Format
LP, Album · Terre Haute Pressing
Runout / matrix

S ̸A̸B̸ ̸4̸2̸4̸3̸4̸-̸ ̸S̸A̸ ̸ AB-4234-SA -1A KENDUN-B SX B 3Side A runout etched, KENDUN-B stamped, variant 1

TI AB 4234 SB - ③ CTH D KENDUN-ASide B runout etched, KENDUN-A stamped, variant 1

TI AB 4234 SA - 2 CTH KENDUN JGSide A runout etched, KENDUN stamped, variant 2

T I AB-4234-SB - 2 CTH KENDUN-B JGSide B runout etched, KENDUN-B stamped, variant 2

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US

1979
Label and catalog number
Arista SD 16621
Format
LP, Album
Runout / matrix

SD 16621 A1 IAM 1/2 RD EDP (in a circle)A Side

SD 16621 B IAM 1/2 RD EDP (in a circle)B Side

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US

1979
Label and catalog number
Arista AB 4234
Format
LP, Album · Santa Maria Pressing
Runout / matrix

1S AB 4234-SA-1B A3 KENDUN-AA side runout variant 1

1S AB 4234-SB-1B A1 KENDUN-BB side runout variant 1

1S A̶B̶-̶4̶2̶3̶4̶-̶S̶A̶ AB-4234-SA-1A KENDUN-B B4A side runout variant 2

1S AB 4234-SB-1B A8 KENDUN-BB side runout variant 2

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US

1979
Label and catalog number
Arista AB 4234
Format
LP, Album · Terre Haute Pressing
Runout / matrix

TI AB 4234 SA - 2 CTH KENDUB JGSide A runout, variant 1

T I AB-4234-SB - 2 CTH KENDUN-B JGSide B runout, variant 1

AB-4234-SA KENDUN-A JGSide A runout, variant 2

AB-4234-SB X KENDUN-A JGSide B runout, variant 2

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US

1979
Label and catalog number
Arista AB 4234
Format
LP, Album · Terre Haute/Santa Maria Pressing
Runout / matrix

AB 4234 SA(scratched out) AB-4234-SA-1A KENDUN-B SX B 17 S1Side A etched, stamped

T1 AB-4234-SB - 3(in a circle) CTH B KENDUN-ASide B etched, stamped

(AB 4234 SA)Side A label

(AB 4234 SB)Side B label

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Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 14 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1970s10 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1979CanadaArista AB 4234First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979GermanyArista 209 338First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979ItalyArista ARS 39012First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979USArista AB 4234First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979USArista SD 16621First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979USArista AB 4234First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979USArista AB 4234First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979USArista AB 4234LP, Album, Club Edition · Club editionLP, Album, Club Edition · Club edition
1979USArista AB 4234First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
1979USArista AB 4234First yearLP, AlbumLP, Album
Year unknown4 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
?JapanArista 25RS-44LP, AlbumLP, Album
?USArista AL 5-8170LP, Album, ReissueLP, Album, Reissue
?USArista ALB6-8360LP, Album, ReissueLP, Album, Reissue
?USArista AL5-8170LP, Album, ReissueLP, Album, Reissue

Tracklist

  1. A1Toad's Place5:35
  2. A2Country5:41
  3. A3Tune 884:28
  4. A4Sparkle4:26
  5. B1Water Sign5:21
  6. B2Rain Dance4:40
  7. B3Right Here5:23
  8. B4Lights Out6:41

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of Water Sign are there?

14 vinyl pressings of Water Sign are listed here, from 5 countries.

When was Water Sign first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1979, in US, Canada, Germany, Italy. One of them is Arista AB 4234, released August 1979.

How do I tell if my copy of Water Sign is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use AB 4234, SD 16621, 209 338, ARS 39012) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, AB 4234 · SA KENDUN-S JG HUB and AB 4234 · SB KENDUN-S JG HUB. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is Water Sign on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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