US
August 1979- Label and catalog number
- Arista AB 4234
- Format
- LP, Album · Hub Pressing
- Runout / matrix
AB 4234 · SA KENDUN-S JG HUBSide A runout
AB 4234 · SB KENDUN-S JG HUBSide B runout etched, KENDUN-A stamped, variant 1
Vinyl pressings
by The Jeff Lorber Fusion · 1979
Water Sign was first pressed on vinyl in 1979. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
9 pressings came out in 1979, the album's first year, in 4 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
AB 4234 · SA KENDUN-S JG HUBSide A runout
AB 4234 · SB KENDUN-S JG HUBSide B runout etched, KENDUN-A stamped, variant 1
S ̸A̸B̸ ̸4̸2̸4̸3̸4̸-̸ ̸S̸A̸ ̸ AB-4234-SA -1A KENDUN-B SX B 3Side A runout etched, KENDUN-B stamped, variant 1
TI AB 4234 SB - ③ CTH D KENDUN-ASide B runout etched, KENDUN-A stamped, variant 1
TI AB 4234 SA - 2 CTH KENDUN JGSide A runout etched, KENDUN stamped, variant 2
T I AB-4234-SB - 2 CTH KENDUN-B JGSide B runout etched, KENDUN-B stamped, variant 2
SD 16621 A1 IAM 1/2 RD EDP (in a circle)A Side
SD 16621 B IAM 1/2 RD EDP (in a circle)B Side
1S AB 4234-SA-1B A3 KENDUN-AA side runout variant 1
1S AB 4234-SB-1B A1 KENDUN-BB side runout variant 1
1S A̶B̶-̶4̶2̶3̶4̶-̶S̶A̶ AB-4234-SA-1A KENDUN-B B4A side runout variant 2
1S AB 4234-SB-1B A8 KENDUN-BB side runout variant 2
TI AB 4234 SA - 2 CTH KENDUB JGSide A runout, variant 1
T I AB-4234-SB - 2 CTH KENDUN-B JGSide B runout, variant 1
AB-4234-SA KENDUN-A JGSide A runout, variant 2
AB-4234-SB X KENDUN-A JGSide B runout, variant 2
AB 4234 SA(scratched out) AB-4234-SA-1A KENDUN-B SX B 17 S1Side A etched, stamped
T1 AB-4234-SB - 3(in a circle) CTH B KENDUN-ASide B etched, stamped
(AB 4234 SA)Side A label
(AB 4234 SB)Side B label
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1979 | Canada | Arista AB 4234First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | Germany | Arista 209 338First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | Italy | Arista ARS 39012First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | US | Arista AB 4234First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | US | Arista SD 16621First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | US | Arista AB 4234First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | US | Arista AB 4234First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | US | Arista AB 4234LP, Album, Club Edition · Club edition | LP, Album, Club Edition · Club edition |
| 1979 | US | Arista AB 4234First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1979 | US | Arista AB 4234First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | Japan | Arista 25RS-44LP, Album | LP, Album |
| ? | US | Arista AL 5-8170LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | US | Arista ALB6-8360LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | US | Arista AL5-8170LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
14 vinyl pressings of Water Sign are listed here, from 5 countries.
The earliest pressings are from 1979, in US, Canada, Germany, Italy. One of them is Arista AB 4234, released August 1979.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use AB 4234, SD 16621, 209 338, ARS 39012) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, AB 4234 · SA KENDUN-S JG HUB and AB 4234 · SB KENDUN-S JG HUB. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.