Vinyl pressings
by The McCoys · 1966
Up And Down / If You Tell A Lie was first pressed on vinyl in 1966. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
11 pressings came out in 1966, the album's first year, in 7 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
W-10053 (MR) LW △60135 Bell Sound W-10053A side runout
W-10054 (MR) LW △60135-X Bell Sound W-10054B side runout
W-10053A side label
W-10054B side label
BellSound W-10053 W-10053 LWA-Side Runout Etching
BellSound W-10054 W-10054 LWB-Side Runout Etching
W-10053Side A label
W-10054Side B label
W-10053 11 LW W-10053A Side Runout (etched)
W-10054 11 LW W-10054B Side Runout (etched)
Bell SoundRunout Both Sides (stamped)
W-10053Side A label
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1966 | Australia | Stateside OSS-202First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1966 | Canada | Bang Records B-516First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1966 | France | Bang Records N 670005First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1966 | Germany | Atlantic Atl. 70.163 / Atlantic ATL 70163First year7", Single, 45 RPM | 7", Single, 45 RPM |
| 1966 | South Africa | Stateside 45-JSS 1087First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1966 | UK | Immediate IM 029First year7", 45 RPM | 7", 45 RPM |
| 1966 | UK | Immediate IM 029First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
| 1966 | US | Bang Records B-516First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1966 | US | Bang Records B-516First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Promo · Promo |
| 1966 | US | Bang Records B-516First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1966 | US | Bang Records B-516First year7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene | 7", 45 RPM, Single, Styrene |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | Netherlands | Stateside HSS 11437", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| ? | Sweden | Atlantic ATL 701637", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
13 vinyl pressings of Up And Down / If You Tell A Lie are listed here, from 9 countries.
The earliest pressings are from 1966, in US, UK, Australia, Canada and more. One of them is Bang Records B-516, released February 1966.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use B-516, IM 029, OSS-202, N 670005) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, W-10053 (MR) LW △60135 Bell Sound W-10053 and W-10054 (MR) LW △60135-X Bell Sound W-10054. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
