Vinyl pressings
by The New Tony Williams Lifetime · 1975
Believe It was first pressed on vinyl in 1975. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
8 pressings came out in 1975, the album's first year, in 5 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
S1 PAL-33836-1C TML-M BHRunout Side A, variant 1
S2 PBL-33836-1C TML-M A 3Runout Side B, variant 1
1S PAL 33836 1A TML-M A9Runout Side A, variant 2
1S PBL 33836 1B TML-S A1Runout Side B, variant 2
PAL 33836 1A TML-MEtched Side 1, variant 1
PBL 33836 1A TML-MEtched Side 2, variant 1
PAL 33836 1A TML-M SXT A- 2 SEtched Side 1, variant 2
PBL 3386 1A TML-M C 1 SX5Etched Side 2, variant 2
1S PAL 33836 1AA-Side Runout Etching
1S PBL 33836 1AB-Side Runout Etching
TML-MRunout Stamp Each Side
CBS 69201-A2 ALLEN .:
CBS 69201-B2 C1 .:
S 69201–ASide A etched
S 69201–BSide B etched
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1975 | Europe | CBS CBS 69201 / CBS PC 33836First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1975 | Japan | CBS/Sony SOPN 169 / CBS/Sony SOPN-169First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1975 | Japan | CBS/Sony SOPN 169 / CBS/Sony SOPN-169First yearLP, Album, Promo · Promo | LP, Album, Promo · Promo |
| 1975 | Spain | CBS S 81301First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1975 | UK | CBS S 69201 / CBS 69201First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1975 | US | Columbia PC 33836First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1975 | US | Columbia PC 33836First yearLP, Album, Promo · Promo | LP, Album, Promo · Promo |
| 1975 | US | ColumbiaFirst yearLP, Advance, Album, Promo · Promo | LP, Advance, Album, Promo · Promo |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2015 | Europe | Music On Vinyl MOVLP1308LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | Europe | Music On Vinyl MOVLP1308 / Columbia MOVLP1308LP, Album, Limited Edition, Numbered, Reissue · Limited, Numbered, Colored vinyl | LP, Album, Limited Edition, Numbered, Reissue · Limited, Numbered, Colored vinyl |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | US | Columbia PC 33836LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
11 vinyl pressings of Believe It are listed here, from 5 countries, released between 1975 and 2025.
The earliest pressings are from 1975, in US, UK, Europe, Japan and more. One of them is Columbia PC 33836.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use PC 33836, S 69201, CBS 69201, SOPN 169) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, S1 PAL-33836-1C TML-M BH and S2 PBL-33836-1C TML-M A 3. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
