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Val DoonicanIf I Knew Then What I Know Now

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If I Knew Then What I Know Now

by Val Doonican · 1968

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If I Knew Then What I Know Now was first pressed on vinyl in 1968. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.

How to spot a first pressing of If I Knew Then What I Know Now

11 pressings came out in 1968, the album's first year, in 6 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.

UK

October 1968
Label and catalog number
Pye Records 7N 17616
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single · Push-out centre
Runout / matrix

7N 17616-ALabel side A

7N 17616-BLabel side B

Full details of this pressing

UK

October 1968
Label and catalog number
Pye Records 7N 17616
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single · Solid centre
Runout / matrix

7N 17616-ALabel side A

7N 17616-BLabel side B

Full details of this pressing

UK

October 1968
Label and catalog number
Pye Records 7N 17616
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single · Large Hole
Runout / matrix

7N 17616 A-1 GSide A, runout, stamped

7N 17616 B-1 GSide B, runout, stamped

7N 17616-ASide A, label

7N 17616-BSide B, label

Full details of this pressing

UK

1968
Label and catalog number
Pye Records 7N 17616
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single · Push-out centre
Runout / matrix

7N 17616-ALabel side A

7N 17616-BLabel side B

Full details of this pressing

UK

1968
Label and catalog number
Pye Records 7N.17616
Format
7", 45 RPM, Single · Push-out centre, Blue label
Runout / matrix

(Label side A): 7N.17616 A-1

Full details of this pressing

UK

October 1968
Label and catalog number
Pye Records 7N 17616
Format
7", 45 RPM, Promo
Runout / matrix

7N 17616-ALabel side A

7N 17616-BLabel side B

Full details of this pressing

Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.

All 11 vinyl pressings

By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.

1960s11 pressings
YearCountryLabel and catalog numberFormat
1968AustraliaAstor AP-1552First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968NorwayPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968PakistanPye Records 7N-17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968UKPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968UKPye Records 7N.17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968IrelandPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968South AfricaPye Records PYS 201First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968UKPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968UKPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single
1968UKPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo
1968UKPye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single7", 45 RPM, Single

Tracklist

  1. AIf I Knew Then What I Know Now
  2. BA Little Bit Of You

Questions

How many vinyl pressings of If I Knew Then What I Know Now are there?

11 vinyl pressings of If I Knew Then What I Know Now are listed here, from 6 countries.

When was If I Knew Then What I Know Now first released on vinyl?

The earliest pressings are from 1968, in UK, Ireland, South Africa, Australia and more. One of them is Pye Records 7N 17616, released October 1968.

How do I tell if my copy of If I Knew Then What I Know Now is a first pressing?

Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 7N 17616, 7N.17616, PYS 201, AP-1552) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, 7N 17616-A and 7N 17616-B. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.

How much is If I Knew Then What I Know Now on vinyl worth?

It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.

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