UK
October 1968- Label and catalog number
- Pye Records 7N 17616
- Format
- 7", 45 RPM, Single · Push-out centre
- Runout / matrix
7N 17616-ALabel side A
7N 17616-BLabel side B
Vinyl pressings
by Val Doonican · 1968
If I Knew Then What I Know Now was first pressed on vinyl in 1968. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
11 pressings came out in 1968, the album's first year, in 6 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
7N 17616-ALabel side A
7N 17616-BLabel side B
7N 17616-ALabel side A
7N 17616-BLabel side B
7N 17616 A-1 GSide A, runout, stamped
7N 17616 B-1 GSide B, runout, stamped
7N 17616-ASide A, label
7N 17616-BSide B, label
7N 17616-ALabel side A
7N 17616-BLabel side B
(Label side A): 7N.17616 A-1
7N 17616-ALabel side A
7N 17616-BLabel side B
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1968 | Australia | Astor AP-1552First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | Norway | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | Pakistan | Pye Records 7N-17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | UK | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | UK | Pye Records 7N.17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | Ireland | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | South Africa | Pye Records PYS 201First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | UK | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | UK | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
| 1968 | UK | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo | 7", 45 RPM, Promo · Promo |
| 1968 | UK | Pye Records 7N 17616First year7", 45 RPM, Single | 7", 45 RPM, Single |
11 vinyl pressings of If I Knew Then What I Know Now are listed here, from 6 countries.
The earliest pressings are from 1968, in UK, Ireland, South Africa, Australia and more. One of them is Pye Records 7N 17616, released October 1968.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use 7N 17616, 7N.17616, PYS 201, AP-1552) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, 7N 17616-A and 7N 17616-B. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.