Vinyl pressings
by Wishbone Ash · 1974
There's The Rub was first pressed on vinyl in 1974. Every vinyl pressing is listed below with its label, catalog number and runout codes, so you can tell an original from a reissue.
27 pressings came out in 1974, the album's first year, in 18 countries. Compare the label and catalog number on your copy, then the codes etched or stamped in the runout groove (the dead wax around the label): they are the surest sign of an early pressing.
MCF 2585 A-1U OV XV A 2 MCA-598 CAN YOU DO THIS? KENDUNVariant 1 Runout, A-side
MCF 2585 B-1U DV A JUST TESTING MCA-599 KENDUNVariant 1 Runout, B-side
MCF 2585 A-1U M A MCA-598 CAN YOU DO THIS? KENDUNVariant 2 Runout, A-side
MCF 2585 B-1U MG JUST TESTING MCA-599 3 KENDUNVariant 2 Runout, B-side
MCF 2585 A-1U MCA-598 CAN YOU DO THIS? KENDUNRunout A-side variant 1
MCF 2585 B-1U JUST TESTING MCA-599 KENDUNRunout B-side variant 1
MCF 2585 A-1U OD 3 2 KENDUN MCA-598 A CAN YOU DO THIS ?Runout A-side variant 2
MCF 2585 B-1U O A 2 KENDUN MCA 599 A JUST TESTINGRunout B-side variant 2
MCA-598-W-Z KENDUN P IIIISide A (P crossed out)
MCA-599-W-Z KENDUN P IIISide B (P crossed out)
MCA 598Side A Label
MCA 599*Side B Label
MCA-598-W-2 KENDUN ⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵ ◈-P-◈ IIII BSide A runout, etched/stamped, variant 1
MCA-599- ̷5̷9̷8̷-W-2 KENDUN ⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵ ◈-P-◈ III BSide B runout, etched/stamped, variant 1
MCA-598- W-2 KENDUN 1 ⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵ ◈-P-◈ II BSide A runout, etched/stamped, variant 2
MCA-599- ̷5̷9̷8̷-- W- 2 KENDUN ⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵ ◈-P-◈ III BSide B runout, etched/stamped, variant 2
MCA-598-W-1 KENDUN ⧈-G-⧈Runout, side A, variant 1
MCA-599-W-1 KENDUN ⧈-G-⧈Runout, side B, variant 1
MCA 598-W-1 KENDUN ⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵ A ⧈-G-⧈Runout, side A, variant 2
MCA 599 ⴵⴵⴵⴵ W-1 KENDUN ⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵⴵ ⧈-G-⧈ 1 ARunout, side B variant 2
MCA 464 STEREO SIDE 1 (MCA 598) 1 5 BBB MCA 598-W3 0 A2
MCA 464 STEREO SIDE 2 (MCA 599*) 1 5 BBB-MCA 599-W4 1A
Not sure how to read the runout? See matrix numbers, runout and dead wax and how to tell a first pressing.
By decade, oldest first. Open a pressing for its full label, barcode and runout details.
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1974 | Argentina | MCA Records 8335 / MCA Records MAPS 7709First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1974 | Belgium | MCA Records 4 C062-96022 / MCA Records MAPS 7709First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1974 | Canada | MCA Records MCA-464 / MCA Records MCA 464First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1974 | Germany | MCA Records MZPS 7709 / MCA Records 6.22075 AOFirst yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1974 | Germany | MCA Records MZPS 7709 / MCA Records 6.22075 AOLP, Album, Repress | LP, Album, Repress |
| 1974 | Germany | MCA Records MZPS 7709 / MCA Records 6.22075 AOLP, Album, Repress | LP, Album, Repress |
| 1974 | India | MCA Records MCA-464First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1974 | Italy | MCA Records MCA-4111First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1974 | Japan | MCA Records MCA-6059First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1974 | Japan | MCA Records MCA-6059First yearLP, Album, Promo · Promo | LP, Album, Promo · Promo |
| 1974 | Japan | MCA Records MCA-6059First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1974 | Lebanon | MCA Records MCA 464First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1974 | Malaysia | MCA Records MCA 464First yearLP, Album, Stereo | LP, Album, Stereo |
| 1974 | Netherlands | MCA Records 5C 062-96022First yearLP, Album | LP, Album |
| 1974 | Netherlands | MCA Records 5C 062-96022LP, Album, Test Pressing · Test pressing | LP, Album, Test Pressing · Test pressing |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1984 | Europe | MCA Records 250 453-1LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| 1984 | Germany | MCA Records 0062.002 / MCA Records MZPS 7709LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| Year | Country | Label and catalog number | Format |
|---|---|---|---|
| ? | Europe | MCA Records 201 567 / MCA Records 201 567-320LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | Europe | MCA Records 250 453-1LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | Europe | MCA Records 6.22075 AO / MCA Records MZPS 7709LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
| ? | France | MCA Records MCA-410029 / MCA Records 410 029LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
| ? | Germany | MCA Records 6.22075 / MCA Records MZPS 7709LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
| ? | Germany | MCA Records 201 567-320LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | Germany | MCA Records 201 567-320LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | Germany | MCA Records 6.22 075 / MCA Records MZPS-7709LP, Album, White Label | LP, Album, White Label |
| ? | New Zealand | MCA Records MAPS-7709LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | UK | MCA Records MCF 2585LP, Album, Reissue | LP, Album, Reissue |
| ? | UK | MCA Records MCF 2585 / MCA Records MAPS 7709LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo |
53 vinyl pressings of There's The Rub are listed here, from 22 countries, released between 1974 and 1984.
The earliest pressings are from 1974, in UK, US, France, Argentina and more. One of them is MCA Records MCF 2585, released December 1974.
Check the catalog number on the label (first-year pressings use MCF 2585, MCA-464, MCA 464, 410 029) and the codes etched in the runout groove, then compare them with the pressings listed above; for example, MCF 2585 A-1U OV XV A 2 MCA-598 CAN YOU DO THIS? KENDUN and MCF 2585 B-1U DV A JUST TESTING MCA-599 KENDUN. Later reissues often keep the catalog number but change the label design or the runout codes.
It depends on which pressing you have and on the condition of the record and its sleeve. Early pressings from the album's home country in near mint condition are usually worth the most; common later reissues are worth far less. Scan your copy with VinylLens to see its value for every grade.
